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Prices are based on month-to-month pricing.
Prices are based on month-to-month pricing.
To me, Namecheap is the right choice because they are local and because of their principles.


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Revision as of 03:40, 6 August 2022

Social Media

  • tbd: link to FB
  • tbd: link to Twitter
  • tbd: link to ...

Video Conferencing

Jitsi (current solution)

Real-Time Chat

Slack (current solution)

  • For us limiting the slack to 250/under overall users would be against our mission.
  • Slack has been a great tool for us, and pretty dang reliable
  • It's not a replacement for Google Groups
  • I don't know if Discord would be a replacement for Slack
  • If we had to pay for Slack it would not be worth it to our organization
  • The more social platforms we have the more fractured the memberbase becomes

Big Features

Drawbacks

  • 3 months of slack history (regardless of the 10,000 message count)

Pricing

  • if we have less then 250 members, the slack instance would be free
  • “weekly active members” seems to be around the 40-55 range
  • Looks like slack doesn’t charge for “inactive” members. https://slack.com/help/articles/218915077-Slacks-Fair-Billing-Policy
  • their regular price after the increase would be around $4350 per year, or $652.50 ... $55 a month basically ... (for 50 users)
  • “Pro Plan: We offer workspaces with 250 or fewer members a free upgrade, and an 85% discount for workspaces above that size.” [ed: for non-profits]

Element.io

  • Jitsi Integration
  • End-to-End Encryption

Discord

  • "I will say Discord's own tos and coc is kind of a dumpster fire..." (seen on our Slack)

Discussion Forum

Google Groups (current solution)

Big Features

  • Bi-Directional Email Sync

Drawbacks

  • Q: Do we have limited retention on Google Groups, like Slack?
  • A: No. (to the best of my knowledge. -Jot)

Calendar

Wiki

Current

MediaWiki 1.19 (ca 2012)

Coming Soon

"I've threatened to upgrade before, but this time I mean it!" - Bob Bushman, Summer 2022

Office Suite

Current

Google Docs

Big Features

  • Integration with Google Groups and Google Calendar.

Alternatives

Collabora

What's Better

What's Worse

Cloud Hosting Provider

"I suggest that anything hosted in the cloud NOT be created/hosted under an individual’s account. A HSL owned account should be created and everything placed under that." - Jeff Sittler

"I prefer not to run images. If we use our own deploy process we are free to lift and shift to another provider." - Bob Bushman

Big 3

Google

I think that's the right link. I couldn't find bare Linux servers.

"We can get $400 of free credit (for 90 days I think) to play with it if people are interested. I could create the VMs and then setup access so configuration/installation could be." - Jot Powers

Amazon

Microsoft

"I don't know how many Azure folks we have but the lab has $2,500 / year free there too. I can certainly get anyone started but we would need more than one person for the reasons already mentioned" - Eric W

I can't figure out how to get a straight price or HDD size for bare Linux instances from their interface. - Bob Bushman

Provider Comparison Table

To try to get comparables, I picked the least expensive 2 GB instance. I run 1 GB instances for my wikis, but I figure HSL will have more load.

Prices are based on month-to-month pricing.

To me, Namecheap is the right choice because they are local and because of their principles.

Provider VPS Plan Monthly Price vCPU Cores RAM HDD Bandwidth Notes
Aquatis KVM - 2G $5.00 2 Cores 2 GB 10 GB SSD 1 TB Small Storage, Out of Stock, could not confirm price is month-to-month
Interserver VPS 1 $6.00 1 Core 2 GB 30 GB SSD 2 TB Offers 1-click MediaWiki (though having our own deploy process makes lift & shift easier)
Namecheap Pulsar $9.88 2 Cores 2 GB 40 GB SSD RAID 10 1 TB Phoenix Local, RAID 10, Supports Net Neutrality, Fought Facebook (and settled), Opposes Invasion of Ukraine, Supports Solo Entrepreneurs and Women Entrepreneurs
Amazon Lightsail Virtual Server 3 $10.00 1 Core 2 GB 60 GB SSD 3 TB
NDCHost Cloud Server #2 $10.00 1 Cores 2 GB 50 GB SSD 2 TB Listed on EFF as having full support for CertBot.
Google Cloud LAMP Stack $12.70 1 Core 2 GB 10 GB ?? Small Storage, offers 1-click Bitnami Mediawiki, price is for LAMP - bare Linux instances are $25.95
Hostinger VPS2 $12.99 2 Cores 2 GB 40 GB SSD 2 TB Europe-based (Lithuania)
Spry SSD KVM Milli $20.00 2 Cores 2 GB 40 GB SSD ??