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"I don't know how many Azure folks we have but the lab has $2,500 / year free there too. I can certainly get anyone started but we would need more than one person for the reasons already mentioned" - Eric W | "I don't know how many Azure folks we have but the lab has $2,500 / year free there too. I can certainly get anyone started but we would need more than one person for the reasons already mentioned" - Eric W | ||
I can't figure out how to get a straight price or HDD size from their interface. - Bob Bushman | I can't figure out how to get a straight price or HDD size for bare Linux instances from their interface. - Bob Bushman | ||
== Provider Comparison Table == | == Provider Comparison Table == |
Revision as of 03:33, 6 August 2022
Social Media
- tbd: link to FB
- tbd: link to Twitter
- tbd: link to ...
Video Conferencing
Jitsi (current solution)
Real-Time Chat
Slack (current solution)
- For us limiting the slack to 250/under overall users would be against our mission.
- Slack has been a great tool for us, and pretty dang reliable
- It's not a replacement for Google Groups
- I don't know if Discord would be a replacement for Slack
- If we had to pay for Slack it would not be worth it to our organization
- The more social platforms we have the more fractured the memberbase becomes
Big Features
Drawbacks
- 3 months of slack history (regardless of the 10,000 message count)
Pricing
- if we have less then 250 members, the slack instance would be free
- “weekly active members” seems to be around the 40-55 range
- Looks like slack doesn’t charge for “inactive” members. https://slack.com/help/articles/218915077-Slacks-Fair-Billing-Policy
- their regular price after the increase would be around $4350 per year, or $652.50 ... $55 a month basically ... (for 50 users)
- “Pro Plan: We offer workspaces with 250 or fewer members a free upgrade, and an 85% discount for workspaces above that size.” [ed: for non-profits]
Element.io
- Jitsi Integration
- End-to-End Encryption
Discord
- "I will say Discord's own tos and coc is kind of a dumpster fire..." (seen on our Slack)
Discussion Forum
Google Groups (current solution)
Big Features
- Bi-Directional Email Sync
Drawbacks
- Q: Do we have limited retention on Google Groups, like Slack?
- A: No. (to the best of my knowledge. -Jot)
Calendar
Wiki
Current
MediaWiki 1.19 (ca 2012)
Coming Soon
"I've threatened to upgrade before, but this time I mean it!" - Bob Bushman, Summer 2022
Office Suite
Current
Google Docs
Big Features
- Integration with Google Groups and Google Calendar.
Alternatives
Collabora
What's Better
What's Worse
Cloud Hosting Provider
"I suggest that anything hosted in the cloud NOT be created/hosted under an individual’s account. A HSL owned account should be created and everything placed under that." - Jeff Sittler
"I prefer not to run images. If we use our own deploy process we are free to lift and shift to another provider." - Bob Bushman
Big 3
I think that's the right link. I couldn't find bare Linux servers.
"We can get $400 of free credit (for 90 days I think) to play with it if people are interested. I could create the VMs and then setup access so configuration/installation could be." - Jot Powers
- Pre-built versions can be deployed. Estimated cost is <$5/month. Bitnami Mediawiki bundle on Ubuntu
Amazon
Microsoft
"I don't know how many Azure folks we have but the lab has $2,500 / year free there too. I can certainly get anyone started but we would need more than one person for the reasons already mentioned" - Eric W
I can't figure out how to get a straight price or HDD size for bare Linux instances from their interface. - Bob Bushman
Provider Comparison Table
To try to get comparables, I picked the least expensive 2 GB instance. I run 1 GB instances for my wikis, but I figure HSL will have more load.
Prices are based on month-to-month pricing.
Provider | VPS Plan | Monthly Price | vCPU Cores | RAM | HDD | Bandwidth | Notes |
Aquatis | KVM - 2G | $5.00 | 2 Cores | 2 GB | 10 GB SSD | 1 TB | Small Storage, Out of Stock, could not confirm price is month-to-month |
Interserver | VPS 1 | $6.00 | 1 Core | 2 GB | 30 GB SSD | 2 TB | Offers 1-click MediaWiki (though having our own deploy process makes lift & shift easier) |
Namecheap | Pulsar | $9.88 | 2 Cores | 2 GB | 40 GB SSD RAID 10 | 1 TB | Phoenix Local, RAID 10 |
Amazon Lightsail | Virtual Server 3 | $10.00 | 1 Core | 2 GB | 60 GB SSD | 3 TB | |
NDCHost | Cloud Server #2 | $10.00 | 1 Cores | 2 GB | 50 GB SSD | 2 TB | Listed on EFF as having full support for CertBot. |
Google Cloud | LAMP Stack | $12.70 | 1 Core | 2 GB | 10 GB | ?? | Small Storage, offers 1-click Bitnami Mediawiki, price is for LAMP - bare Linux instances are $25.95 |
Hostinger | VPS2 | $12.99 | 2 Cores | 2 GB | 40 GB SSD | 2 TB | Europe-based (Lithuania) |
Spry | SSD KVM Milli | $20.00 | 2 Cores | 2 GB | 40 GB SSD | ?? |