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| This page was automatically copied from [[HYH Meeting Template]] by [[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how future meetings perform, please make any modifications to [[HYH Meeting Template]]. If you would like to propose something at the next meeting, bring it up on the mailing list with "PROPOSAL:" in the subject line and Phong will add it to the next meeting's agenda. | | This page was automatically copied from [[HYH Meeting Template]] by [[User:Phong]]. If you would like to change the structure of how future meetings perform, please make any modifications to [[HYH Meeting Template]]. If you would like to propose something at the next meeting, bring it up on the mailing list with "PROPOSAL:" in the subject line and Phong will add it to the next meeting's agenda. |
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| = Instructions =
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| * Read the instructions out loud for all to comprehend.
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| * '''Delete these instructions prior to posting completed minutes'''
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| * Pick a moderator and note-taker
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| * Review [[HYH Meeting 2012-11-22|the last meeting's minutes]]
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| * If proposals have been amended or withdrawn, update this document accordingly before the meeting.
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| == Note-taker ==
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| * Open a text editor to take down some '''detailed''' minutes.
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| ** Detail is important. If it isn't written down, it never happened.
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| ** Make sure you record vote counts and not only the final results
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| * Project the minutes and notes throughout the meeting on the projector in the centre of the room.
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| ** This is done in lieu of whiteboarding because screw whiteboarding.
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| * Follow the instructions in the End of Meeting section at the appropriate time.
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| == Moderator ==
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| * Start by taking count of present voting members for quorom
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| ** Note Taker should note this count in the Agenda section
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| * Make sure everyone gets a chance to speak
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| * Speak minimally yourself
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| * Keep the meeting moving
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| * Handle the membership voting process
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| * Be sure to thoroughly follow the procedure outlined in this document, as the template may occasionally change without warning.
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| == Participants ==
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| * Remain on-topic
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| * Remain respectful of other participants
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| = Agenda = | | = Agenda = |
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| * '''Note Taker:''' FIXME | | * '''Note Taker:''' Paul Hickey |
| * '''Moderator:''' FIXME | | * '''Moderator:''' Paul Hickey |
| * '''Number of Members Present:''' FIXME | | * '''Number of Members Present:''' 14 |
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| == Announcements ==
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| * Any cool new projects? Something you want everyone to know?
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| * Any happenings that people should be aware of?
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| == Financial Report ==
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| * Funds in bank: ##FIXME## (Can be seen at [[Financial Report]].)
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| == Proposals == | | == Proposals == |
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| === All proposals from previous meeting === | | === All proposals from previous meeting === |
| Quorom was not established at the [[HYH Meeting 2012-11-22]]. All proposals to be voted on.
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| === Card Access for Mark 'Trunk' Kirschenbaum ===
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| * Proposal by '''Jacob Rosenthal'''
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| * Proposed on '''Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:11:08 -0700'''
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| <pre>
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| Did you see Mark's hot topics on how hes taken his ideas from prototype to
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| reality? Perhaps you've seen him online here where hes been looking to help
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| set up more classes for you all. Or maybe hes helped you out at the lab
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| while doing awesome hacking on his own projects?
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| I think hed like to finally get his card access and I'd like to sponsor
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| him.
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| </pre>
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| ==== Discussion ====
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| <!-- note any discussion here, preferably with attribution of discussers -->
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| * '''RESULT: #FIXME#''' <!-- record final verdict and tally of votes -->
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| === Block nodejs.org ===
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| * Proposal by '''Ryan Mcdermott'''
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| * Proposed on '''Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:11:16 -0700'''
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| <pre>
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| Node still isn't in a 1.0 release, and I feel as though it is our
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| responsibility to protect people from it. An unwitting newbie my
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| accidentally download node.js and DIE.
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| Please redirect anybody trying to load nodejs.org to this website:
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| http://codeslinger.posterous.com/if-youre-using-nodejs-youre-doing-life-wrong
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| -Ryan
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| </pre>
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| ==== Discussion ====
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| <!-- note any discussion here, preferably with attribution of discussers -->
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| * '''RESULT: #FIXME#''' <!-- record final verdict and tally of votes -->
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| === Drink System moves to being a complete honors system. ===
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| * Proposal by '''Chad Stearns'''
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| * Proposed on '''Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:39:46 -0800 (PST)'''
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| <pre>
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| Hey guys,
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| As you know, we have a fridge up front that contains a lot of drinks which
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| the lab pays for. We pay for it by providing a jar, and requesting that
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| people put money in it when they take a drink. This is what I would
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| describe as a partial honors system. Heatsync spends its own money to buy
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| drinks, but it relies on people paying for the drinks out of the goodness
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| of their heart. There is no enforcement to make sure people pay when they
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| take a drink.
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| I think this has its problems. The process involves what I recognize to be
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| three parts:
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| 1. Since heatsync is buying the drinks, we have to account for it, and
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| collect it. This takes effort and record keeping.
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| 2. From there once we have deposited it into a bank account, we have to
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| find a vendor and buy drinks from them often in a impersonal and convoluted
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| manner.
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| 3. Along the way we need some kind of survey mechanism to find out what
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| drinks people want.
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| Each one of these three parts has had its problems. Regarding (1) we have
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| at times mis-recorded, or failed to collect money. (2) we have had problems
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| with the reliability and pricing of our vendor. And (3) is that sometimes
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| we order drinks no one really likes.
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| So whats the alternative? Well first let me tell you a story.
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| Recently we had no drinks at all. Tim Gerrits took matters into his own
| | === [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topicsearchin/heatsynclabs/subject:proposal$20AND$20after:2012$2F11$2F08$20AND$20before:2012$2F12$2F07/heatsynclabs/Br4bfvgcsOE] Create guest sign-in book=== |
| hands and took money out of the drink jar then went to the store and bought
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| drinks. He didnt do it because he had to, he did it because he recognized
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| it as easier and simpler than waiting around for our bureaucratic system do
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| get those drinks. In doing it himself I think he actually got a better
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| deal. As the treasurer, I cant really tolerate someone just grabbing
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| heatsync's money and spending it. But at the same time, I dont honestly
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| think the alternative is a better way. Recently we ran out of water, and I
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| didnt have cash. I was tempted to just take some of heatsyncs money and buy
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| water. But in doing so it would really not have been accounted for at all.
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| So right now, we are collecting money, and buying drinks, but we are only
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| managing to record some unknown percent of the spending/collection. The
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| data about how much we are collecting and spending for drinks its
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| meaningless.
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| Here is what I propose:
| | * Proposal by '''Paul Hickey''' |
| | *9 For/1 Against - '''PASSED''' |
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| *Complete Honors system:*
| | === [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topicsearchin/heatsynclabs/subject:proposal$20AND$20after:2012$2F11$2F08$20AND$20before:2012$2F12$2F07/heatsynclabs/Ld4p6T4WwAI] Define safety incident reporting=== |
| * | | *Proposal by '''Michael Mathers''' |
| * | | *0 For/4 Against - '''FAILED''' |
| Lets replace the drink jar, with some kind of container. Some group of
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| people will have access to this container, and they will go and buy drinks
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| when they want to.
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| *Pre-emptive rebuttals:*
| | === [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topicsearchin/heatsynclabs/subject:proposal$20AND$20after:2012$2F11$2F08$20AND$20before:2012$2F12$2F07/heatsynclabs/fXsfkVEGN6Q] Drink system moves to being a complete honors system=== |
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| 1. It could be argued that this opens us up to all kinds of un-policeable
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| corruption, in which people constantly steal money from innocent donors.
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| That certainly could be done, but I think the optimistic hacker spirit that
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| we all share chooses to believe that realistically people wont take
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| advantage of this. Or, at least it wont be taken advantage of to an extent
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| to makes it relatively worse to what we have now.
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| 2. What group has spending privileged? I dont know! Lets argue about this.
| | *Proposal by '''Chad Stearns''' |
| We could just have a jar, which gives everyone the capacity to take money
| | *11 For/1 Against - '''PASSED''' |
| and spend it. If thats too open for you, we could put it under lock and
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| key, and give some group of people keys. Or we could give one person a key
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| and when someone else wants drinks the key-holder can open the box for them.
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| -ChadCS
| | === [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topicsearchin/heatsynclabs/subject:proposal$20AND$20after:2012$2F11$2F08$20AND$20before:2012$2F12$2F07/heatsynclabs/B_NLQtqzmPg] Card access for Mark 'Trunk' Kirschenbaum === |
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| | *Proposal by '''Jacob Rosenthal''' |
| </pre>
| | *15 For/0 Against - '''PASSED''' |
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| ==== Discussion ==== | | === [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topicsearchin/heatsynclabs/subject:proposal$20AND$20after:2012$2F11$2F08$20AND$20before:2012$2F12$2F07/heatsynclabs/Xeo0lk5Imgg] Purchase Craftsman miter saw to replace RAS === |
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| * '''RESULT: #FIXME#''' <!-- record final verdict and tally of votes --> | | *Proposal by '''Ben Humphereys''' |
| | *'''WITHDRAWN''' |
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| | === [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topicsearchin/heatsynclabs/subject:proposal$20AND$20after:2012$2F11$2F08$20AND$20before:2012$2F12$2F07/heatsynclabs/lY-M_Rl9fOE] Only people with card access can vote on granting card access=== |
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| | *Proposal by '''Chad Stearns''' |
| | *9 For/5 Against - '''PASSED''' |
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| | === [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topicsearchin/heatsynclabs/subject:proposal$20AND$20after:2012$2F11$2F08$20AND$20before:2012$2F12$2F07/heatsynclabs/ii3Vbz6TUxE] Officially declare our adherence to the Prime Directive === |
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| == Discussion Items ==
| | *Proposal by Ryan McDermott |
| | *'''WITHDRAWN''' |
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| If an item of discussion drags on too long, further discussion may be postponed until after the meeting ends.
| | === [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topicsearchin/heatsynclabs/1500/heatsynclabs/HZSCjCSl5Ew] Grant 1500 in matching funds for the wood shop buildout === |
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| During discussion, it is not necessary to write down exactly what each person says. Record the topics of discussion, and any items of consensus or controversy here. Detailed descriptions of the conversation should go on the discuss page for this meeting.
| | *Proposal by '''Brian Aday''' |
| | *4 For/7 Against - '''FAILED''' |
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| = End of Meeting =
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| * Delete the "Instructions" section at the top of this page.
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| * Delete this section.
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| * Post the notes to the wiki
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| * Discuss any items for which there was not enough time during the meeting
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